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Comment: Marketing around Shanky makes me laugh all days. The combinatorial explosion of possible game states is way too big And that is not just for today's machine: unless major discoveries are made in AI there's simply no way No-Limit Hold'em are able to compete with good players. Regarding cheating: yes, it is considering cheating and PokerStars, for example, actively chases bots and confiscates any fund found on botters' account. Home Questions Tags Users Unanswered. They published a paper in one of the most prestige journals in the world - Scince. I've been using sagittarius abz for quite some time now on pokerstars. Viewed 88k times. The best answers are voted up and rise to the top. Brian Brian 19 1 1 bronze badge. Personally I would welcome bots at my table as it gives me an edge but it depends on your point of view. Humans do this all the time, even unconsciously. The other one is Open Holdem but that's more for programmer-geek types and does better at fixed limit games. So it all boils down to how many hours you play a day and how much you multi-table because a person playing on 8 tables for 48 hours is definitely a bot! Asked 6 years, 2 months ago. Using "friendly" bots in poker rooms is a nature of poker boom supporting. Poker stars because of their policy actually have the best bots and botters on their site. Saggitarius and other bot products are based on Shanky or Open Holdem. Now I saw that. Bots are not good at determining opponent strategy and adjusting their play for that. It's efficient at stack management and obeying the preset standards of when it's time to start pushing aggressively. Lol, so, exactly what I said in the first sentences of my response then? How good: I cant directly answer your question given that its not exactly a poker bot but rather a 'poker bot creator' but i can tell you this: the main advantages are, unlimited patience, percent strictness, perfect mathematics, and in the case of sagittarius abz it has a 'player type database' feature which allows you to play differently against different players, you can also see statistics based on each single decision taken and whether it was profitable over a series of games so you can keep tweaking your bot and improving it over time. Problem for online poker yet? Moreover, beating bots is not a problem for advanced players. It only takes a minute to sign up. Fred Jewell Fred Jewell 19 1 1 bronze badge. You can play against a PokerSnowie bot, but you cannot make PokerSnowie play in your place at a real online poker table. I am still 'testing' it on 0. It is really the big picture that counts, how much money you are left with after subtracting your losses from your profits. BTW, there are a lot of newbies that cry about money lost in playing with "bots". An appropriately trained neural network could absolutely detect and adjust to things like a player tilting. Any poker bot not based on a neural network is liking just playing a static maximally exploitative strategy vs. Some rooms use poker AI to play near zero games to create games and generate rake from real players. Active Oldest Votes. Ask Question. Of course, newbies are losing money against not only bots :. I would question in what capacity I could participate "in the business" - knowing nothing about me, what do you think I could contribute? In theory, the best bot possible will manage to play all its winning hands until showdown, and fold all its losing hands before losing too much money. Sorry, my bad! Cash games are tougher these days, with or without a bot. Once a computer program is taking actions for you, most poker sites consider it cheating. There are a few hard core reg botters that grind a small profit by probably working just as hard as any player showing a profit. And of course it's considered cheating. In my personal opinion, id rather 'teach' the bot how to play myself rather than blindly trusting my money with someone elses bot I cant directly answer your question given that its not exactly a poker bot but rather a 'poker bot creator' but i can tell you this: the main advantages are, unlimited patience, percent strictness, perfect mathematics, and in the case of sagittarius abz it has a 'player type database' feature which allows you to play differently against different players, you can also see statistics based on each single decision taken and whether it was profitable over a series of games so you can keep tweaking your bot and improving it over time. Brent Morrow Brent Morrow 1, 10 10 silver badges 16 16 bronze badges. Bots can't react to changing game conditions or individual player anomalies like someone being on tilt but they make up for it in other ways, such as discipline, stability, and longevity. They'll allow software that helps you make better decisions, but anything that acts for you generally isn't allowed. Of course, newbies are losing money against not only bots : Comment: Marketing around Shanky makes me laugh all days. There is no pot of gold in botting , but for some is it a fun distraction from mundane playing for hours and hours just the break even. If the answer is capital, then it would seem odd that you'd canvas for investment on a fairly low-traffic SE site and I'd have the question the legitimacy of that business{/INSERTKEYS}{/PARAGRAPH} Yes it is considered as cheating. From what I've heard and read, one of the most advanced poker bots is PokerSnowie , an artificial intelligence built using a neural network. The guys botting on there know how to stealth and program better than the commercial bots. I don't think online poker bots are a huge problem yet. Bots also have a very hard time on site where players can regularly change their screen names As of Aug , the best poker bot that proved to win some of the best poker players in the world is the Pluribus made by Noam Brown and Tuomas Sandholm. Sign up to join this community. What stakes are the best computer programmed bots currently capable of winning at? No-Limit Hold'em? The big winners are the poker sites. Certain Vegas casinos are also offering limit Hold'em machines where you can play against AI. It's fairly easy to detect them and PokerStars is quite diligent in that regard. Bots can probably win only at small stakes if at all since the best players are not playing at small stake tables. There may be a few bots at the lower stakes on the poker sites which do not heavily track them able to grind some money, but there's no way a No-Limit Hold'em bot is winning a major tournament any time soon. And is it considered cheating and is there ways to detect them? {PARAGRAPH}{INSERTKEYS}Poker Stack Exchange is a question and answer site for serious players and enthusiasts of poker. But some Shanky bot users do well in them. Playing poker using bots is cheating. These are built using neural networks as well. The bot wouldn't "know" it was sporting a tilting player, but it could identify the patterns of events around a tilting player and adjust to them accordingly. If you are interested in the facts just for fun, I cannot help. There is this new software, Sagittarius ABZ which allows you to create your own strategy, as in you tell it how to play yourself! He then won contracts with some of the Vegas casinos for LHE machines. Mark Grinder Mark Grinder 29 6 6 bronze badges. PokerSnowie is a training tool, not a bot. Limit Hold'em is pretty much fully "solved" and the best bot can play basically as well as the best Limit Hold'em players in the world. There are many ways to detect bots, mouse movements, previously detected bots running processes blacklisted bots , randomly misplaced pixels to confuse the bot, similar game-play patterns pre-programmed bots , and more, however the truth is a well programmed 'stealth bot' such as the one i use, its almost impossible to detect unless you hack the PC running the bot! They likely can grind out a profit, albeit not a large one. How good are the best poker bots? But if you want to participate in the business, you are welcome! BTW, you must understand that if the business has profit, it cannot be easily forbidden. That's what most of the players who have it use it for. It would be good to see some facts or supporting evidence to back up some of the things in this answer, especially the first bullet point. That's only being used in training software though. Is it considered cheating? So Humans have an edge over bots, especially the good players. Glorfindel 1 1 gold badge 2 2 silver badges 11 11 bronze badges. On the other hand, bots do not lose patience and do not go on a tilt! This will not be a problem even if there are many bots around as poker is what it is, gambling. Active 2 years, 10 months ago. As far as I know this is the only real commercial poker bot available, the only one an average person can use effectively. Believe me, guys that make money using real winning oker AI will never share their products but will earn money on poker rooms attracting new partners to the business. Capable of winning: I've been using sagittarius abz for quite some time now on pokerstars. Bots will only get better, is this a problem for online poker yet? The Shanky Technologies Holdem Bot is probably as good as they are likely to get. As for online poker bots actually playing, and avoiding detection, on PokerStars for instance I'm not sure.